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good. >> no more snow. >> jacqueline london. the newsen its with nbc "nightly news" with lester holt. developing news tonight. trump standoff. an intense drama building as the front-runner goes to war with fox news, refusing to show up for the final debate before iowa, slammed by his rivals. what's behind trump's drastic move? also, one-on-one with bernie sanders. his oval office meeting with president obama days after the president seemed to tip his hand in favor of hillary clinton. deadly shootout. federal agents and a dramatic confrontation with government protesters. the group's leader arrested, the siege still not over. and walmart controversy. the world's largest retailer about to shutter over 150 stores leaving neighborhoods across 15 states fresh out of luck for food. "nightly news" begins right now.
>> announcer: this is "nbc nightly news" with lester holt reporting tonight from washington. good evening. in a presidential election year that's taken some pretty odd directions, add this one to the list. now five days before the iowa caucus votes republican front-runner donald trump has abruptly dropped out of tomorrow night's debate in an apparent huff, a decision apparently not rooted in any shrewd political strategy but rather in a spat between trump and fox news which is carrying the debate. for any other candidate, it would be a highly risky move, but as katy tur reports, for this candidate no one is placing bets. >> reporter: when it comes to donald trump, the only rule is there are no rules. five days to the caucus and the billionaire is skipping iowa today for south carolina, and skipping the fox news debate tomorrow. >> i don't know what games roger ailes is playing but what's wrong over there. >> reporter: trump and his campaign manager arguing fox isn't fair
after it sent out a press release mocking trump's complaints about moderator megyn kelly. the candidate still angry at kelly for reciting things he himself said about women. >> unlike the very stupid and highly incompetent people that run our country, mr. trump knows when to walk away from a bad deal. >> reporter: trump possibly betting that the risk of a no show is better than the risk of a poor performance. ♪ >> reporter: in response trump's opponents are piling on. ted cruz not so subtly tweeting that trump is a coward. ♪ >> reporter: the drama making national headlines but not here in iowa where locals want to get it over with. >> i don't think he's credible candidate. i wouldn't vote for him if he was the only one running. >> more drama. more petulant behavior. >> reporter: even mike beecher, who is still deciding between jeb bush and donald trump, says he's heard enough. wouldn't you want to see another debate to really be able? >> i don't need it. >> reporter: okay. >> i don't need it at
this point. >> if trump is running any risk, it's that some voters in iowa may say this is immature, but i think that risk is relatively small, particularly for the people already supporting trump who will look at this not as a petulant move but as a move of strength. >> reporter: though polling suggests the bigger the turnout the better trump will do caucus night, there's still little sign the campaign has followed through on its get out the vote effort. late tonight trump announced a counterevent at drake university. now all of the attention is back on the front-runner, and, lester, as you know, he's never liked to be challenged. he's grown increasingly sensitive on the trail lashing out at reporters and now refusing to face a tough moderator. >> all right, katy, thanks. with democrats hillary clinton and bernie sanders days away from their showdown in iowa, sanders was here in washington, d.c., specifically the white house, where he met with president obama. it's a meeting planned weeks ago. i caught up with senator sanders right after his oval office chat, and he told me their conversation
covered domestic and foreign policy issues and, yes, politics. >> it was a private conversation so i'm not going to get into it but i think if there's anybody in the world who understands what campaigning in iowa and new hampshire is about and in putting together just an extraordinary grass roots movement that took them to victory, that is barack obama. >> a few days ago the president speaking to politico seemed to be speaking in glowing terms about secretary clinton, her leadership, her depth of experience. >> she can start here day one, more experienced than any non-vice president has ever been who aspires to this office. >> some people say he was tipping his thumb on the scale in her favor. did you sense that? >> nope. i didn't -- >> were you bothered by? >> nope, i wasn't. i read the interview, and i thought he was very even-handed. i think there are some people who spun it this way. >> bernie sanders!
>> what's your bar for success in iowa? >> winning. >> number one. >> yeah. i mean, i think that we have worked really hard. we started off in iowa later than secretary clinton did, but in the last number of months we have put together an incredible volunteer effort. we have 15,000 volunteers, and let me tell -- be very clear about this, lester. caucus night in iowa, you will be able to tell very early, i think, who wins and who loses. if there is a large voter turnout, we're going to win. >> if you come in second place, what does that mean for the rest of your campaign? >> it means that we came in second place in iowa and we're off on the run into new hampshire to try to win there. >> but is it disappointing? would be it crushing and get you off your game? >> at the end of the day in terms of delegate selection, if you get 52% or 48% it will mean very few delegates. psychologically obviously it's
northern. >> word on the street you've got a lot of ad dollars you'll be buying on television. are you going to be going directly at hillary clinton? are you going to turn negative? >> no, no, no. we differentiate ourselves from secretary clinton every single day. that is what a campaign is about. >> let's talk about the significance of your campaign. president obama, the first african-american president. hillary clinton could become the first female president. not a lot has been talked about the fact that you would become the oldest and the first jewish president. is that something you reflect on and think about? >> sure, i do. thank god i am in good health and as a former long distance runner, was a pretty good miler when i was in high school, did a little running in college, my endurance is strong. in terms of my religion, i'm very proud of my jewish background, and it has had a significant influence on me. >> and one more note from our interview. the new hampshire union leader is hosting a debate next week that will air on msnbc. hillary clinton said today that she's in
and we asked bernie sanders if he's in as well. he said he wasn't ready to commit because he wants to expand on that plan and add additional debates to the schedule as well, so stay tuned there. want to bring in right now our political director, the moderator of "meet the press" chuck todd. chuck, let's go back to donald trump for a moment. >> yeah. >> is there a hidden strategy perhaps in him refusing to debate and obvious question could it backfire? >> well, look, always a chance could backfire. iowans could be offended by the idea, but here's where it could be a shrewd move. look, debates haven't been donald trump's best moments. the most recent debate was probably list best debate but that's grading a little bit on a curve. he's been fine, not collapsed, but debates only matter to the voters if somebody has a disastrous performance, so here's why it could be a shrewd move. trump not being there. no way he can make a mistake and say the wrong thing, but guess what could happen? his chief rival in iowa ted cruz, after five minutes of bashing donald trump for being there, what do you think the rest of the candidates are going to do?
are they going to continue going after donald trump or piling on ted cruz and who benefits more from that, donald trump? this could end up being a very shrewd move by the front-runner. >> all right. chuck, thanks very much. a group of armed anti-government protesters are still occupying a federal refuge in oregon after their leaders were arrested in a deadly shootout overnight. they seized the refuge over three weeks ago demanding the release of ranchers convicted of setting fires on federal land. as nbc's joe fryer reports, those still at the refuge are strongly being urged to leave. >> reporter: authorities are tightening their grip around the malheur national wildlife refuge tonight, blocking roads and setting up checkpoints. inside the refuge some anti-government militants remain, not giving up on their armed occupation. >> peaceful resolution is what you keep hearing and a peaceful resolution is what we expect. >> reporter: many of the green's leaders, including ammon bundy are now occupying a jail cell. while driving along a rural highway yesterday, some were stopped by the fbi and
state police. the senior law enforcement official tells nbc news one vehicle drove off and hit a snow bank and then lavoy finicum emerged brandishing a firearm. he was shot and killed. >> i'm disappointed that a traffic stop yesterday that was supposed to bring peaceful resolution to this ended badly. >> reporter: three weeks ago, finicum said he'd rather die than go to jail. >> i have no intention of spending any of my days in a concrete box. >> reporter: but his daughter says he would never put someone's life in jeopardy. >> he's a great man and just because he said he doesn't mean that his night won't go on. he's now had a martyr. >> reporter: during the highway confrontation another militant ryan bundy was shot in the arm but survived. today seven suspects including the bundy brothers appeared in federal court facing felony charges. another occupier john ritzheimer was arrested in arizona.
he had just returned home to see his family. three and a half weeks have passed since the armed group took control of the wildlife refuge. now the fbi says those remaining need to pack up and go and won't be arrested. >> if the people on the refuge want to leave, they are free to do so. >> reporter: a lit development tonight. ammon bundy through his attorney is asking the remaining occupiers to stand down and go home. it's unclear how many militants remain at the refuge, but we know after the events that happened yesterday some did pack up and leave earlier today. lester? >> all right, joe, thanks. in south florida today, wild scenes as a tornado rolled through new ft. lauderdale with winds near 100 miles per hour flipping cars on a college campus, damaging roofs and leaving hundreds of homes without power. at least one person was injured. there's a new warning tonight from doctors. american doctors that the zika virus is a pandemic demanding a more aggressive global response and top public health experts are saying the u.s.
must do more to prepare for zika as american airlines expands refunds offered to pregnant women who booked flights to affected countries. nbc's tom costello has the new details. >> reporter: in the streets of rio, celebration before carnivale expected to draw more than a million turnists, but the conditions here are perfect for mosquitos, hot and muggy with lots of standing water. nbc news was with sanitation crews dispatched to wipe out zika-carrying mosquitos already linked to 4,000 cases of microcephaly in brazil, babies born with deformed heads and brains. 24 countries and territories are now on the cdc's list of areas that pregnant women or women who could become pregnant should avoid. meanwhile in a top medical journal today, two top american researchers accused the world health organization of failing to act fast enough. >> now we have a pandemic. it started to involve multiple continents,
and certainly many countries, more than 21 countries in the americas. we need global leadership for this evolving rapidly accelerating health problem. >> reporter: while travelers infected with zika abroad have already returned to the u.s., there is growing concern that zika mosquitos could soon spread to the southern u.s. states and then spread north with warmer weather. become in brazil with carnivale and olympic tourists expected this summer, a quarter of a million soldiers are now on mosquito control missions and carolina lobo is seven months pregnant. >> i'm worried because i can't have a baby with microcephaly and i don't want it, nobody wants it. >> reporter: president obama is pushing american researchers to develop a vaccine quickly, but that could be years away. the good news. people who aren't pregnant and contract zika should develop mild symptoms if any at all and then have immunity for life. tom costello, nbc news, washington. a grade school principal from indiana is being hailed as a
hero for saving her students from a horrific bus crash, but sadly as nbc's blake mccoy tells us, she gave her life to protect those children. >> reporter: parents and kids in mourning over the death of their beloved elementary school principal, 69-year-old susan jordan killed in a freak accident tuesday when a school bus unexpectedly lurched forward, jumping the curb. in her final moments witnesses say jordan pushed children out of harm's way. >> we started going forward and we hit a tree and i was just really scared because i didn't know what was going to happen. >> reporter: two 10-year-olds were injured in the accident but are expected to be okay. >> boys and girls, this is national kindness week. >> reporter: jordan had been principal of amy beveland elementary for 22 years, someone who always put kids first, whether it was making pancakes or handing out birthday cards to each student. >> when you heard that in her final moments she was pushing kids out of the way to save
them from that bus. >> i said that's our susan. that's our susan. she's a hero. she was had a hero every day. >> reporter: what caused the bus to suddenly jolt forward is under investigation. the school district says the driver showed no signs of being under the influence of drugs or alcohol. tests are being done. and we're told that this bus had just passed regular inspection last friday. >> there were no violations found that contributed to the crash. >> reporter: classes resume tomorrow, and while the building will be open, its heart and soul will be missing. blake mccoy, nbc news, indianapolis, indiana. we've got more to tell you about here tonight. still ahead, shock waves across america as the world's largest retailer prepares to close many of its stores. we take you to one community that's losing much more than big discounts. also, why super bowl-bound quarterback peyton manning is facing an nfl peyton manning is facing an nfl (music)
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by tomorrow walmart will have shut down almost all of the 154 stores that it has targeted for closure around the nation. all of its express locations are closing, many of which are in small towns. nbc's gabe gutierrez takes us to one of the many communities that will struggle to find fresh food after walmart leaves. >> reporter: in tiny oriental, north carolina, population 900, everything changed when the giant came to town. >> it was bad.
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about the impact on their lives as part of our series "we the people." >> reporter: macintosh drive used to be straight up american middle class but no more. for many that dream has died in flint. the loss of industry, the loss of jobs and now their water is tainted with lead. along macintosh drive anger. >> my normal life has totally changed. no more life like it used to be. that's gone. >> reporter: dewana taylor has lived here nearly 20 years. she wants to move but says now the house will never sell. >> they nailed to tell the truth. i can't get past that. how could you deliberately give somebody poison. >> reporter: strong questions for her government which many in flint feel has abandoned them. across the street the hodges. father shane has three kids under the agech 6. the effect of lead on a child's development can be devastating.
>> i am beside myself with fear and fear of the unknown. >> reporter: in this home they await the results of lead testing. >> at night i just, you know, i pray on my knees that everything will be taken care of. >> reporter: neighbor rodney kotspur has lost faith. >> somebody as to be accountable. >> reporter: in a city of almost 100,000 where more than 40% live below the poverty line they are stunned by the indifference. >> we do not count. >> they have lied to us, an they have left us behind, and whatever happens to us doesn't matter. >> reporter: left behind on macintosh drive and facing an uncertain future again. ken tibbles, nbc news. flint. >> and a program note. tonight my colleague rachel maddow will hold a town hall on this crisis live from flint at 9:00 eastern on msnbc. that's going to do it for us on a wednesday night. i'm lester holt. for all of us at nbc
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